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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Uploading into EDT editor
Message-Id: <1995Dec15.165002.69763@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 15 Dec 95 16:50:02 MDT
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Organization: Utah State University
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In article <4aronp$ks5@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, afn10375@afn.org (David A. Johns) writes:
> Can anyone tell me why I should be having trouble doing an ascii
> upload into the EDT editor on a VAX/VMS system (using MS-Kermit
> 3.14)?
>
> Here's what happens. With a normal DOS text file (end of line =
> CR/LF), when I TRANSMIT the file, each line shows the character "M"
> at the end, but the next line continues on the same line -- i.e.,
> neither a CR nor an LF registers on the screen. After the first few
> lines, the transmission stops at each "M" and I have to hit enter
> for the transmission to continue. When the transmission is finished,
> I can return to CONNECT mode and hit ^R (screen refresh) and the message
> is there, all formatted properly, with no difference between the lines
> at the beginning, where I didn't have to hit enter, and those further
> down, where I did.
>
> This is all with the stock SET TRANSMIT settings. I've also played
> with those. I've tried sending LF, with no visible effect. Once
> I set the pause to 1000 milliseconds, and apparently froze Kermit
> (I never got the command line prompt back).
>
> If I TRANSMIT into the standard VMS mail editor (send/noedit), the
> message displays properly and I don't have to hit enter on each line.
> The VMS terminal is set to VT100 (and I've tried VT100, VT102, VT220,
> and VT320 in Kermit with no differences). But using the standard
> editor isn't an option because it allows only very short messages
> (512 bytes?).
>
> Also, I haven't had this problem with any of several other programs
> I've used to contact this system over the years.
>
> Any ideas?
----------
Your are placing new text into a full screen editor. EDT wants to
move the cursor around as a result, rather than simply echoing CR back
to MSK. Consequently, what EDT does echo comes out as one line overlapping
the next on your MSK screen, but the text is actually inserted properly.
This is typical of full screen editors when inserting material in the
middle (and sometimes even at the end) of a document. Just ignore the
false echoing and do that screen refresh after reentering Connect mode.
Joe D.